T O P

Having a grapevine on your house is purely decorative when you live in Sweden, but this year, with the weather being what was, we hit the jackpot! 🍇🍷

Having a grapevine on your house is purely decorative when you live in Sweden, but this year, with the weather being what was, we hit the jackpot! 🍇🍷

Mountainman1913

Amazing harvest! Well done.


dangerouspangolin

Well it's not only OP's work, it's global warming's work, so we all made this possible. Congratulations to us all and you are welcome, OP! :D But really, it looks so juicy and I bet it smells nice too :P


LukeSkyWRx

With enough effort we will grow oranges in Alaska!


Meowzebub666

[No UN comisar is gonna tell Americans how hot it is in our outdoors.](https://youtu.be/rR58heUGkNA)


[deleted]

All those tires I've been burning have paid off!


gimpwiz

Do you have a lot of horsepower, or do it the old fashioned way?


QuantumLeapofFaith

This is [me](https://i.imgur.com/fEwkzMY.jpg) doing it the old fashioned way!


gimpwiz

Way too small. Think bigger. There's still ice on the poles


QuantumLeapofFaith

We need OP to grow grapes year round!


gimpwiz

Wait I think the causal relationship is opposite


hugglesthemerciless

Let’s all replace our compact cars with fat heavy SUVs so next near OPs harvest can be even better!!


redbit2020

let's get Teslas (much better performance), but let's power them with (dirty) coal power plants


Floppie7th

I know you're making a joke, but in case you're not aware, electric vehicles powered by coal are still appreciably less CO2 /mile than ICE vehicles


byebybuy

I 100% believe you, but do you have a source for that? There are some snotty people in my life that wouldn't believe *me* if I said something like that.


Floppie7th

Sure. This is a pretty good article I was able to find quickly - https://thecorrespondent.com/7056/why-electric-cars-are-always-green-and-how-they-could-get-greener/741917761200-afaa6e5d - there might be better, but this one takes into account emissions from producing the batteries and uses the Netherlands' electricity mix rather than the US's, both of which paint a much less rosy picture for the BEV, which IMO helps drive the point home better.


byebybuy

That's great, thanks!


redbit2020

Unless I'm missing something, this article talks about 100% renewables VS 100% gasoline car VS Standard Netherlands electricity production mix (which includes 11% renewables, and the reminder is mostly natural gas)... I don't see a comparison with coal only.


_314

I just wanted to write, that this would be better efficiency than how it is now, but remember, that we still have to build all the batteries in the teslas


dangerouspangolin

Lets make him grow mangoes! Sweet mangoes from Sweeden :))


hugglesthemerciless

Couple palm trees never hurt anyone


lowballz

I'mma start my avacado Grove in michigan


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tds612

The real driving force behind keto


[deleted]

That’s what I’ve been trying to tell everybody. Global warming is gonna work out ok


Rilezz

What do you mean? Grapes couldn't grow that well before in that area?


BexxDaMaster

Thanks! :)


[deleted]

Meanwhile here in Finland, I'm still waiting for my hops to ripen. Doesn't look like it will happen this year, despite having had a lovely summer ^except ^for ^June....


TentacleBorne

Do you ever make Sahti?


[deleted]

No, anything with wheat family grains absolutely kills me. I'm completely wheat/rye/barley intolerant, which kinda did in my pastry career. :( That was nice.


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BexxDaMaster

They taste amazing!


FlixFlix

I don’t understand why you can’t buy Concorde at the supermarket. Does it not have a good shelf life?


Porencephaly

I have bought Concord at the supermarket. Guess it depends on the store.


Rosenkavalier35

Concorde grapes are all used for juice (in the US at least)


marsglow

I’m in the US and I can but Concord grapes in my grocery store.


nuclearfoxes

Where? I can only find them at the Korean supermarket in the next state over. :(


marsglow

East Tennessee.


nuclearfoxes

I wen to Nashville for a conference once. It was a lovely city. If it weren't for the asinine cost of living, I would consider moving there.


marsglow

You should consider a place like Chattanooga. It’s a lovely place. Or even my hometown of Knoxville.


nuclearfoxes

I'll keep that in mind! I grew up in Atlanta, so I like the South East. I bet the mountains make it even better. Y'all get snow up there much?


magenta_mojo

Koreans love them some concordes


almightyleader

Hjemmedyrkede druer er så mye utrolig mye bedre! Var heldige og endelig fikk noen med fin størrelse i Norge i år også takket være sommeren. Må innrømme at dine så mye finere ut da! Hilsen fra Norge :)


scubahana

We have a grapevine in our yard here in DK and it's just been overflowing with grapes. It's our first year renting this place and I know nothing about tending vines so just left it be. If I bothered to read up for five minutes last winter we would have been simply awash.


time4myself

I am on canada with similar grapes. They may not be as sweet as the ones produced form down south, but I used to make homemade grape jelly for the kids when they were little. They always had fun helping, and it was preservative and dye free.


melasses

These things grow as weed, we had to prune 60%. Also Sweden.


SirReginaldWindageII

I’m in South Texas, just returned from Stockholm where the plums and apples were falling off of the trees. So beautiful. I was jealous. You have a lovely autumn going on. Returned here to 16 inches of rainfall and my white grapes have re-set fruit!! Lots of fruit this year, but too much rain. Thanks!


Meowzebub666

Too much rain?? Are you sure you really live in Texas? 2011 has scarred me for life, I'll never not welcome rain.


bphan

Yeah lol it’s true, it was just all at once for a whole week almost. The most I remember seeing was 4 inches in a few hours at one point. One my my dads pepper plants got flooded


SirReginaldWindageII

16 inches in one month. Spread it out a bit and I’m fine.


[deleted]

People only talk about the negatives of global warming!


Gizmodo_ATX

The world needs to be warmer and higher CO2 leads to bigger crop yields.


Jukeboxhero91

Carbon isn't the limiting factor in crop yields, it's nitrogen and phosphorous. If carbon were the limiting element here, adding fertilizer wouldn't do anything.


TheRealTP2016

Yes but with less nutrients. Bigger crop yields dont matter if the food you eat is bland from it


Gizmodo_ATX

https://youtu.be/kHZKo13HV2A


TheRealTP2016

He is a sellout. He lies about the risks of monsanto, and doesnt know what he is talking about.


-Poison_Ivy-

Plus he's a climate change denier.


titanhermant

Clean up the environment, bucko.


-Poison_Ivy-

lmao of course he's a Peterson cultist, I see Lobster Daddy's climate change denialism is being passed down to the failsons Peterson is cultivating.


titanhermant

Mix in a little Joe Rogan so you just go along with whatever anyone says and you have a match made in heaven


petit_cochon

1. Lobsters have serotonin. 2. I have serotonin. 3. Analogy is perfect; this Peterson guy is a genius!


Gizmodo_ATX

https://youtu.be/kHZKo13HV2A


-Poison_Ivy-

Why did you link me to a climate change denier?


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-Poison_Ivy-

So much for rule 6 and rule 9 of Lobster Daddy's gospel for incels.


Gizmodo_ATX

1. My house is in order. 2. I'm trying to share an alternative perspective that you may not have considered and because the video characterizes (partially) how/why I've reached my viewpoint on environmental topics and climate change. 3. I'm happy to hear your side of the topic, but I don't appreciate your inference that I'm anyone's ideological lap dog. 4. I'm still learning how to use Reddit posting and thread best practices, thanks for your advice.


-Poison_Ivy-

> I'm trying to share an alternative perspective that you may not have considered and because the video characterizes (partially) how/why I've reached my viewpoint on environmental topics and climate change. One that isn't shared by any portion of the scientific community mind you. There's the anecdotal and unprofessional opinion of one random dude who got pissy at his organization for not bowing to his dumb ideas, and then there's the cumulative scientific data and research of climate models, ecological analysis and meteorological data of the last 100 years. >but I don't appreciate your inference that I'm anyone's ideological lap dog. Then you're doing a piss-poor job of proving otherwise


Gizmodo_ATX

https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/9kwrlo/so_i_decided_to_forgo_practice_putting_today/?st=JMSRIXRY&sh=04a185ce


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Begone Republican! [I'm not part of your system!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ)


therealrinnian

Damn it, haven't heard this one in awhile. "That's not my dad, that's a cell phone! I threw it on the GROUNDDDDDDDDDDD!"


Gizmodo_ATX

Lol, funny video but I'm not a republican. Real people are a little more complicated than the labels you put on them.


therealrinnian

Yeah, unusually massive earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. don't usually have positive impacts on crops.


petit_cochon

No. That is incorrect and stupid. Stop it. Bad.


[deleted]

Did you know that higher temperatures ruin crop yields?


Dial-1-For-Spanglish

OP's pic says otherwise.


-Poison_Ivy-

I mean that's only taking into account temperature. Crop yields are also effected by water availability, disease prevalence, soil fertility all of which will be negatively effected by climate change. Growth cycles (as in the amount of sunlight available based on geographic location) also will not change so don't expect to grow crops that require 8 hours of 100F+ heat (such as eggplants) to be grown in areas that at best maybe get 6-7 hours of 70F. But yes, a single bunch of grapes should sustain us when the rest of the world's major agricultural areas fail.


Dial-1-For-Spanglish

>...all of which will be negatively effected by climate change. Whether temperatures go up or down? What were the effects on human populations when temperatures were higher during the Middle Ages (besides France moving to protect itself from imports of British wine)? Besides, assuming global temperatures will go up and up and up, are farmers so inflexible that they would see the signs and adjust their crops and rotations? You talk like you're watching a car crash when it's more like observing tectonic plates moving over each other.


[deleted]

Change as in either direction. The way our climate is changing means more EXTREME weather. E.g. cold weather getting colder and hot weather getting hotter. Crops can't survive and produce very much when most of their energy goes towards homeostasis. You're obviously an armchair botanist


not-here-2-argue

Hur många år har ni haft de? Våran är 2 år och de är så himla små druvor. Så gott att äta de.


BexxDaMaster

Våran är tre år. De flesta är små, några är i samma storlek som man köper i affären. :)


RubMyPlumbus

Jag har en tvåårig vinrankan i skåne, i juli fick jag klippa bort hälften av druvorna för att det var för tungt för stammen, ändå fick vi ett 20-tal färdiga stora klasar 👍🏻 tricket är att endast spara ca 2 klasar per kvist och med ca15 cm mellanrum så att klasarna inte rör vid varandra, behåller man alla druvorna på plantan så blir dom oftast små ..


BexxDaMaster

Ska tänka på det nästa år, Tack!


Speedmaster1969

Har likadana som OP, haft vinrankan i sådär 25år eller så u ett växthus. Riktigt bra stam på den och grymt goda drovor :D.


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Blessed be the fruit.


ChefChopNSlice

Do grapes need another variety as a pollinator, or do they make fruit on their own ? I have a southern facing hill I’m slowly clearing, and I’d love to plant some grapes in the next couple of years because my kids LOVE them !


DarbyGirl

They make fruit on their own. They will take a couple years to produce once planted.


ChefChopNSlice

Thank you.


Jukeboxhero91

Planted grapes are gonna be hit or miss, because they don't seed true e.g. if you plant a Concord seed you won't get a Concord grape vine. Also, vinifera species are notoriously susceptible to Phylloxera, a type of root louse that kills vines. You can easily buy vines that are grafted onto American rootstock that will be more resistant to Phylloxera online.


ChefChopNSlice

Thank you. I’m not looking for special wine grapes or anything, just a seedless table grape that the kiddos can eat. I know that the Lowe’s near me sold a variety, but when I asked about pollinators, they didn’t know. I’ll look around online over winter and see what I can find.


SirReginaldWindageII

Most are grafted onto a Phylloxera.resistant root stock here. The resistant root stock is the south Texas,native “Mustang” grape.


Wacks_on_Wacks_off

Most are grafted to a rootstock, but there are dozens of common rootstocks available from a variety of grape species and hybrids, not just the Mustang grape.


SirReginaldWindageII

OK, Right, but didn’t the mustang save the french grapes from disease in the 1890s, and the resistant root stock is typically north American?


Wacks_on_Wacks_off

I know they were Texas species that were mostly brought over, but I though it was *V. berlandieri* that was first successfully brought over because of its lime tolerance. Along with specimens or crosses of *V. rupestris* and *V. riparia* seem to have been most successful. I’m sure *V. mustangensis* (aka the Mustang grape) made it over there but I don’t think it was widely used. I did a little more digging and couldn’t find anything too explicit, but [this guy](http://vintagetexas.com/blog/?p=19549) seems like he’s done a bit of research and is pretty adamant that it wasn’t the Mustang grape that saved France from phylloxera. It was, however, Texas grapes and their crosses, initially provided by Munson.


SirReginaldWindageII

Well thank you very much, that is most interesting and seems to dispel the folklore and unsubstantiated stories from this part of the world. Munson. Brilliant.


IM1RU1too

Most European varietals will self pollinate, but most do better with multiple vines. Some grape varietals, mainly wild types, act more like male and female, such as scuppernongs and muscadines. There aren't many people growing wild types of grapes commercially, though they may use rootstock or other elements from them. I planted a vineyard and built a trellis system in my yard, I have about 18 vines, mostly wild types, several varieties of muscadines and scuppernongs, concord, muscat, and a few wine varietals such as pinot noir, and chardonnay. I'm not in the most ideal area, but I set fruit ok. I plant high density and my children eat everything. I enjoy the bitter skin and seeds of the wild grapes, my family just sucks out the jelly and tosses the seeds and skin.


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I’m in Northern Canada and I’m growing a type of grape called Beta, which is a cross between concord and a native wild grape. I only planted one vine last year so I wasn’t expecting much but I harvested about 3kgs of grapes this year. I picked most of them a bit too early though, the flavour gets sweeter if you let them experience a light frost.


BrainbellJangler

Tastes from my youth filled my mouth just looking at this. Thank you!


weeebleswobble

Are those Concord grapes? I live in grape country on the east coast in the states. They're so sweet and yummy and fragrant! My favorite thing to do as a kid was pop them out of the skin. They're like squishy eyeballs lol


BexxDaMaster

The label says "vitis zilga".


Wacks_on_Wacks_off

According to [this source ](https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf) it is a three way cross of *V. amurensis*, *V. labrusca*, and *V. vinifera*. Apparently it originated in Latvia.


Ferdinand910

You dont even know, at my house we have at least 15 feet of fence with vines on them. We can usually get at LEAST 3, 20 Litre pails of those things... we havn't bought jam or juice in like 5 years, send help


Halifaxqt

My parents have Concord grape vines that completely shelter the back deck. They end up making red wine which is simply delicious.


BexxDaMaster

I've have said to my parents that we should make some wine, but I don't know if they are up to it though.


SnMx2

We harvested a decent amount of grapes this year. Thought the same about making wine but then realized the amount of work involved. Decided to make grape jam. Turned out to be very tasty!


The_temple_within76

Wow that is so cool!


TVLL

How did the birds not get them all? Did you have a net over them?


Alecsyr

I live in Norway and we also had a huge harvest this year (there's actually a vineyard close by), but I've never seen birds touch them. Since grape vines aren't native here, maybe we don't have birds that eat them.


BexxDaMaster

No net, but the plant does grow near the wall of the house. So maybe the birds haven't found them yet? :)


yagamisakura

Du hade så stort tur, att de sågs inte. 😅 Vi hade duvor som ät upp våran. Men bäst att inte ta chansen för nästa år, köper nät.


yagamisakura

Oh my. We found out too late. Some pigeons got to ours.😲 Like they waited until they were ripe. How did they know? It was totally covered with the leaves. So in future, will there be likely that other birds will be at it?


ClunkEighty3

May I suggest making some grape jam. We got three bunches of grapes from our vines in the UK, which made a jar of absolutely delicious grape jam. It was gone in a week.


ef6697

I just want pop one in my mouth so badly!! Yummy!


ArccPigsley

In New England Grapes are wicked invasive and kill a lot of native trees. They’ll creep up the trees and suffocate them, it’s quite funny too because I tell people from the City that I have like 5-6 different types of wild fruits that grow on our property and not one of them is pleasant to have. The only one really is Apple trees, and what’s hysterical is if you haven’t seen a wild apple tree they look evil, like a witches tree.


RonnieBergman

Börk wine!


special-character

Much better looking than the ones in our garden here in Portugal!


claudekim1

Go to the other side of the vine and listen to conversations. And you can say you heard it through the grape vine ~~


2fucktard2remember

Looks good. Make wine. Thanks, global warming.


NonConformingHuman

Nice!


idunfromsweden

Jag lyckades inte ens få mina solrosor att slå ut.. 🤔


rudiksb9

Weather was amazing! Did bring much joy to latvians too!


GreasyPeter

See, global warming ain't so bad.


victalac

I live at high latitude in the USA. Global warming doesn't bother me one damn but, bro!


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Those look delicious! What a great haul


Clementineface

Oh how lovely!! Enjoy!


Halifaxqt

My parents have Concord grape vines that completely shelter the back deck. They end up making red wine which is simply delicious.


xthr33x

So does this mean we're okay with the globe warming up?


helptoomanyquestions

Cool


rudiegonewild

Those are beautiful


Lovehat

wow, I'm trying it in Ireland.


ZippyTheChicken

very good


onemorecoffeeplease

Grape jam? That is so good!


special-character

Much better looking than the ones in our garden here in Portugal!


garrrtt

“Nice”


wheretohides

Are those Concord grapes?


Sausage-Fest420

Global warming


lucky_Lola

This summer was awesome! I hope our next one is just as great. Gotta brag about our swedish summers


SwreeTak

You sound like basically all my colleagues at work. They were all so happy about the summer we had. ​ I'm not as happy. We had forest fires which burnt down forest worth over 1 BILLION SEK. We have farmers who have lost their jobs. We have animals starving. We have industries which have had to go down to 50% of their normal productivity due to record-low volumes in our water reserves. ​ But yeah, you got a couple of great days at the beach, didn't you?


lucky_Lola

It's a double edged sword. Farming leads to climate change which leads droughts and hard times, and the next year will be a fruitful year for farmers but more of a kick to adding unwanted admissions into the air... It goes round and round. The forest fires are sad and preventable, but also needed. I know you are thinking this person is crazy, but gives way to new life. We can't control mother nature, but just respect her while drinking a cold one on the beach


SwreeTak

Eh...No. If you farm as you should, droughts are very much avoidable. Forest fires are indeed partly good, but uncontrolled and near where people live? Only a madman could think they would be good then.


-Poison_Ivy-

> and the next year will be a fruitful year for farmers *results may vary*


rauwetosti

Our grpaes have started to rot due to powdery mildew


yagamisakura

Do they have seeds in them?


yagamisakura

Are they purple and seeded?


BexxDaMaster

Yes, and very tasty if I may say!


Gizmodo_ATX

Typical reaction from an idealogical absolutist. I'd love to see anyone actually argue the points that he brings up. Actually I've seen it, I'll post a recent debate if I can find it.


-Poison_Ivy-

You accidentally posted instead of replying to anyone. > I'd love to see anyone actually argue the points that he brings up. Pretending it doesn't exist when there is an exhaustive list is deliberate ignorance on your part http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/ https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/qbnamx/no-the-trans-rights-bill-doesnt-criminalize-free-speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas https://torontoist.com/2016/12/are-jordan-petersons-claims-about-bill-c-16-correct/ https://morganeoger.ca/2017/11/12/petersons-petulance-problem/ https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/is-jordan-peterson-the-stupid-mans-smart-person/ https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jan/18/12-rules-for-life-jordan-b-peterson-review https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/02/jordan-peterson-enlightenment-nietzsche-alt-right https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/a-messiah-cum-surrogate-dad-for-gormless-dimwits-on-jordan-b-petersons-12-rules-for-life/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201803/jordan-petersons-murky-maps-meaning https://jadesaab.com/the-sophism-of-jordan-peterson-and-popular-political-discourse-b952a4d9b77f https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html https://newrepublic.com/article/148473/jordan-petersons-tired-old-myths https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/may/23/jordan-peterson-public-intellectual-isnt-clever-violent-men-monogamy?CMP=share_btn_tw https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/05/jordan-peterson-and-rise-cargo-cult-intellectual https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/05/current-affairs-comparative-mythology-exam https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/evqekn/the-fundamental-errors-of-jordan-peterson Here's an additional 110 critiques and arguments that you can peruse as well: http://ap.io/pet/12/ >I'll post a recent debate if I can find it. No one wants to watch a limp-wristed effete liberal arts professor from canada cry on stage about young boys being bullied by feminists.


Gizmodo_ATX

I was talking about climate alarmism, not about Peterson. But this should give me plenty of reading to do as to what your position is. I appreciate you taking the time to share.


Gizmodo_ATX

Sooooo I'm 5 articles and 1 video in. ContraPoints is hilarious and (s)he brings up very valid and well layed out arguments against his positions. At the same time, I still think that Peterson is a needed voice in an increasingly polarized world. It's pushing back against the nanny-state and the increasing push towards big government to solve the people's problems. The fear (my fear) is once that power is ceded, a small group of future individuals will game the system and bring in authoritarianism which will then need to be overthrown by my future, unborn children.


Gizmodo_ATX

From my perspective, the science isn't settled and 100 years of information isn't enough to make sweeping claims about the climate and our impact on it. https://youtu.be/pVXHaSqpsVg Scientists don't all agree https://youtu.be/pVXHaSqpsVg I'm not an evil person for saying that we shouldn't be raising alarm bells. I believe the world probably is in a leftover chill from the little ice age and could stand to warm up a bit. Thawing out great expanses of the northern land masses would benefit world populations. Higher levels of CO2 would greenify more of the world and lead to higher oxygen production.


Kajjazvem

We call this grapevine jurka. Great taste.


[deleted]

Ah, the upside of climate change.


Cinnaber214

For a very brief time, then there is no upside.


[deleted]

All depends on how much you want grapes where they’re not supposed to be.


[deleted]

i hate grapes.


Produkt

What about wine?


[deleted]

only red wine when im trying to be healthy. i prefer liquor or if no one is looking, a beer. the funny part is the last guy i really really liked is a level II sommelier. i would awkwardly feign interest in his long speeches about grape varieties. and of course never revealed that i would not under any circumstances put a whole grape in my body.


ThatGuyNearby

Those aren't blueberries?